Several Israeli ministers floated the first “unilateral pullout from Judea and Samaria” trial balloons today.
These trial balloons are meant to seed the idea in the Israeli populace – over time it will likely germinate into “reasonability”
Woe to us! Like a dog that returns to its vomit.
We continue to head towards the Exile of Our Time.
Jewish End Of Days 
Yes, they did this before they threw Jews out of Gush Katif. I think it was Olmert who made the statement for Sharon.
This is worse than a dog returning to its vomit. This is outright insanity. How strong is the Erev Rav in Likud?
Dov, according to the Torah the leaders don’t have free will. They are puppets of the Puppet Master. They are only fulfilling their role to bring the geulah. We have had the opportunity to correct our actions and lesson the blow, but we refuse continually to listen. Now, as stated in the last verse of Ovadiah, it’s out of our hands. I can assure you it is.
JEOD, it worse the that. According to SamsonBlinded Blog, Bibi has betrayed us again. Oh, I am shocked. Here is their quote “Palestinian police have begun patrolling Zone C of the West Bank, an area previously under Israeli control. This is where most settlements are located.
Just as we predicted, the Israeli government recognized its inability to expel the settlers, and passed the job to Palestinian thugs. When the roads are flooded with armed Fatah guerrillas, many settlers will choose to move into Smaller Israel—which is likewise rapidly coming under Arab control.”
Nice, yes. So it’s coming quickly. Sigh.
Shilo, do you want to live under their control? What about the residents of Bat Yam demonstrating to kick them out? Do you think it will go so easy?
Dov, What about the prophecy that half of Yerushalayim will be under siege and/or will be under their control; but not without 1929-like devastation occurring, with many fleeing into the desert, from which Moshiach will come … Like in the Haggadah!
Does the erev rav really want to live in an Arab dominated land? They are crazy!
Neshama – “Does the erev rav really want to live in an Arab dominated land? They are crazy!”
I cannot speak for Dov, though I have always assumed that the erev rav seeks to either impede or invalidate Judaism / Hashem / Israel and the Jewish vision of the Geulah any way it can.
If that means using islam to do the dirty work in the same way the collapsing West currently funds the former to “finish the job”. Then living under islamic rule can be view as something accepable in their self-destructive minds, they can just do what tali fahima and join the ummah.
After all, why is it that over the past few decades the false myth of the islamic “golden age” is being heavily promoted, if not to seed the idea to Jews and non-muslims in general that living “protected like-cattle” under islamic rule is somehow natural or even something that the modern day islamophilic secular society should emulate.
Nesher is correct that the Erav Rav would gladly choose Islam if it was to their benefit.
The Erev Rav is into self-preservation and maintaining power, by any means necessary.
Right now, being “Jewish” works for them.
In addition, the root of Erev Rav is Hagar, so there is already a preexisting familial affinity as between them and Yishmael.
See previous article on Erev Rav for more.
you guys need to read some Rabbi Pinchas Winston … very insightful ideas on this subject ….
http://www.thirtysix.org
Neshama, who’s control? The 70% of the rabbi’s or the 70% of the others. By the way, I know how to spell my name.
Nesher, why would you assume that? Invalidate Judaism, it’s done daily. Would you like an example? We just celebrated Chanukah, yes? Please advise me where in the entire Tanach did haShem command us anything about it? Look into the books of the Maccabees and see if that is mentioned there? Maybe the fairly tale about the oil is a talmudic invention? Maybe the actual authors of the books of the Maccabees completely forgot to mention the ‘miracle’. But wait, the Torah is actually quite specific about adding commandments from haShem. Seems to me the chilunim have nothing to do with destroying Judaism, but the rabbi’s who have changed the Torah. I am not saying not to celebrate the victory of the Maccabees, but let’s do it for the right reason and remember our Jewish victories over the goyim, but don’t say haShem commanded lighting the menorah. How about another example, our calendar contradicts the Torah. When calculating the new moon, it is quite clear what the Torah stipulates. Even according to the Talmud you can see where the rabbi’s changed it to a fixed calendar as opposed to the correct method of the new month. Therefore we go before haShem on the wrong day for Yom Kippur for example. We miss it by a couple of days. Slight problem. So who is to blame, Bibi and his cronies. Wake up to who is against haShem and His Derech. You wonder why we get punished by a non-people aka the ‘palestinians’, look no further. Would you like more examples. The list is huge.
Sadly the religious have abandoned the Torah for Talmudism. They love to control every aspect of our lives. Moshe set us free, gave us a set of rules to live by. The rabbi’s changed some of them, we are being punished daily. Funny how Moshe fortold that too. We simply cannot see outside the box, we are so far away from Emet, but still fight for every Jew to come to the slaughter. When we return to haShem, the geulah will occur with kindness, but since we are controled by the Erev Rav we will suffer tremendously.
Was the speech of Lieberman also a balloon?